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Debate to learn. Learn to debate.

Tom Moertel — Mon, 26 Mar 2007 23:23:00 -0400

Recently, Reg Braithwaite wrote about the ad hominem fallacy. His article reminded me that debating – the art and science of constructing sound arguments in the face of opposition – is a valuable skill.

Though many online debates devolve into name calling and other foolishness, most are rich opportunities to learn – if learning is your goal. So make learning your goal.

Look at each debate you enter as a chance to discover something new. When you participate, assume the other participants are good people, who deserve an honest argument from you. If you learn the fundamentals of logic and clear thinking, it’s easy to stay in the debate, contribute, and increase your (and their) chances to learn.

Many people, however, overlook the opportunity to learn in order to pursue the opportunity to win. What a mistake. If the price of winning is ignorance, can you afford the purchase?

Therefore, when I debate, I make considerable efforts to be rational and reasonable. Even so, it’s hard not to say the wrong thing when a debate gets heated. To help keep me in the right frame of mind, I use a simple, idealized debating model.

I wrote about this model six years ago on Kuro5hin, but it’s worth revisiting. The model is not magic, and I doubt it’s novel, but it has helped me. Maybe it can help you, too.

Here it is:

The motivation for debating is to arrive at a better understanding of reality (i.e., the truth).
All participants share this motivation.
All participants are intelligent, rational human beings, each fully capable of drawing logical conclusions from facts.
The reason for disagreements is not because participants want to disagree but rather because their understandings of the facts differ.
Therefore, the objective of debating is to share information until the participants can bring their understandings of the facts into alignment, which will allow for agreement or at least consensus.

I know that the model and reality part ways at the outset. When I debate, however, I pretend the model is reality. I do this is because it allows me to participate earnestly. Forcing myself to make meaningful contributions increases the chance that debates will end in somebody learning something useful.

Nevertheless, debates often go wrong. That’s the second reason I use the model. It gives me something to compare real debates with so that problems are easy to spot and classify. If a key participant in a debate makes personal attacks or refuses to accept demonstrated facts, for example, the problem is easy to see and classify: It is a debate killer. Time to move on.

Another tool that has helped me stay on track is D. Q. McInerny’s wonderful introduction to logic, Being Logical: A Guide to Good Thinking. This short book, inspired by Strunk and White’s classic, tiny text on writing, The Elements of Style, introduces the foundations of logic, explains how to construct sound arguments, and prepares you to recognize and avoid illogical thinking (fallacies). The book is a pleasure to read and makes a handy reference (I keep mine within arm’s reach). If you need a quick refresher on clear thinking, add this delightful book to your toolbox.

Don’t forget: Every debate is an opportunity to learn. So when debating, make learning your goal. And if you learn to debate, you will have an easier time debating and learning.

Debate to learn. Learn to debate.

"Debate to learn. Learn to debate." by sean

Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:51:23 -0400

Kalpesh—you’ve got me there. I was thinking of “debate” in the sense of “political debate” or “high school competitive debate,” where winning is really all that matters. Similarly, in ancient Greece the art of rhetoric was not just about analyzing and constructing logical arguments, but also about speaking forcefully and convincingly.

It’s always hard to tell people’s intentions online, but I think those who actually want to get at the truth are in the minority.

"Debate to learn. Learn to debate." by Kalpesh

Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:18:03 -0400

Sean, if you go by dictionary, you are wrong in saying “debate is art of winning…”

And, I am not debating :)

"Debate to learn. Learn to debate." by Hariharan Ragunathan

Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:23:08 -0400

Hi Tom,

About the ad hominem fallacy you have mentioned very clearly …. We must try to debate as an oppurtunity to learn and not to attack…even I tried explain the same for code review happenings..I am not sure how far I am right..

"Debate to learn. Learn to debate." by sean

Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:35:30 -0400

I think it’s a mistake to call what you describe “debate.” “Debate” is the art of winning arguments by means fair or foul. “Discussion” is the process of collaborative learning. I agree that most of what happens online is debate, and therefore any learning that occurs is just a byproduct. “Being logical” usually devolves into picking nits, while in a true discussion being logical requires a principle of charity, of interpreting others’ arguments in the most favorable light. This is why unless I’m looking for a good cathartic fight, I tend to avoid online technical discussions.